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		<title>Comment on Ports management and board must account for disruption to Auckland by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/04/14/ports-management-and-board-must-account-for-disruption-to-auckland/comment-page-1/#comment-57930</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 03:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. $$$ is useful for mortgages, doctors bills, food and so forth though. But if you are on a higher plane of existence, then those things probably have no meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. $$$ is useful for mortgages, doctors bills, food and so forth though. But if you are on a higher plane of existence, then those things probably have no meaning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ports management and board must account for disruption to Auckland by John72</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/04/14/ports-management-and-board-must-account-for-disruption-to-auckland/comment-page-1/#comment-56814</link>
		<dc:creator>John72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time I worked all night in charge of expensive equipment, it was an adventure, a privilidge. Enjoying work is in the mind. The beauty of dawn, watching stars fade, a colourful sun-rise. The first time was a novelty. Years later, life was eternal misery, eventually deep peace. This was internal, inspite of work. $$$ can not buy happiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first time I worked all night in charge of expensive equipment, it was an adventure, a privilidge. Enjoying work is in the mind. The beauty of dawn, watching stars fade, a colourful sun-rise. The first time was a novelty. Years later, life was eternal misery, eventually deep peace. This was internal, inspite of work. $$$ can not buy happiness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ports management and board must account for disruption to Auckland by John72</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/04/14/ports-management-and-board-must-account-for-disruption-to-auckland/comment-page-1/#comment-56621</link>
		<dc:creator>John72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked long night shifts, on expensive equipment, and been riding a bike to work for 20+ years, am I qualified to comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked long night shifts, on expensive equipment, and been riding a bike to work for 20+ years, am I qualified to comment?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ports management and board must account for disruption to Auckland by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/04/14/ports-management-and-board-must-account-for-disruption-to-auckland/comment-page-1/#comment-56423</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 00:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some other faults on display:

• Ivory Tower Syndrome – I have never worked night shifts on heavy industrial equipment at a port. Yet I feel confident in explaining where others who do are getting it wrong. 

• Ideological neutrality assumption – I see myself as being above the petty interests and squabbles of the world and instead believe that issues can simply be solved by following the advice of &quot;the intelligent&quot; whose intellectual superiority can overcome any obstacle. However in reality far from being neutral I work off the assumptions of the political and economic status quo and thus effectively take the side of the powerful and wealthy.

• Middle class post materialism – Because I have economic security in my own life, and have limited insight into economic reality in 21st century New Zealand, I am free to sermonize that others unhappiness with their income is merely a psychological problem. 

• Self Maximizing Individual Rationality Argument – I will criticize others adherence to what I perceive as lost causes because I have no commitment to anything greater than myself, so I find it hard to understand how others may make a stand for principle and in doing so, create positive social change.

• Knowledge Gap Situation – Failure to understand some of the basic issues behind a situation can lead to suggestions that may or may not be useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some other faults on display:</p>
<p>• Ivory Tower Syndrome – I have never worked night shifts on heavy industrial equipment at a port. Yet I feel confident in explaining where others who do are getting it wrong. </p>
<p>• Ideological neutrality assumption – I see myself as being above the petty interests and squabbles of the world and instead believe that issues can simply be solved by following the advice of &#8220;the intelligent&#8221; whose intellectual superiority can overcome any obstacle. However in reality far from being neutral I work off the assumptions of the political and economic status quo and thus effectively take the side of the powerful and wealthy.</p>
<p>• Middle class post materialism – Because I have economic security in my own life, and have limited insight into economic reality in 21st century New Zealand, I am free to sermonize that others unhappiness with their income is merely a psychological problem. </p>
<p>• Self Maximizing Individual Rationality Argument – I will criticize others adherence to what I perceive as lost causes because I have no commitment to anything greater than myself, so I find it hard to understand how others may make a stand for principle and in doing so, create positive social change.</p>
<p>• Knowledge Gap Situation – Failure to understand some of the basic issues behind a situation can lead to suggestions that may or may not be useful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ports management and board must account for disruption to Auckland by John72</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/04/14/ports-management-and-board-must-account-for-disruption-to-auckland/comment-page-1/#comment-56416</link>
		<dc:creator>John72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long does &quot;Moderation&quot; take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long does &#8220;Moderation&#8221; take?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ports management and board must account for disruption to Auckland by John72</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/04/14/ports-management-and-board-must-account-for-disruption-to-auckland/comment-page-1/#comment-56161</link>
		<dc:creator>John72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 08:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christchurch Press, Saturday, 14/4/2012 has an excellent article that would probably be of benefit to everyone involved in the P. of A. dispute. It describes errors made by virtually everyone involved in the dispute, both participants and commentators. It is positive in that it identifies faults and offers solutions. It is general in that it is discussing the human race in general, not any particular event. It uses everyday situations to illustrate faults being discussed.
 This is described in detail in the Christchurch Press, 14/4/2012, page C3.
A summary of some faults described is rephrased and listed below,

1.         Sunk cost illusion:-   Refusing to walk out of a lost cause.
2.         In group bias      :-   My group is superior, than yours.
3.         Attribution error  :-   Our failures are due to circumstances while other’s are due to their mistakes.
4.         Affirming the consequence:- I am unhappy and have insufficient money. More money will make me happy.
5.         Anchoring heuristic:-  I am working shifts. I am unhappy. Perhaps you would be unhappy anyway.
6.         Charisma effect     :- I have been told that I am overworked and underpaid. It does not matter that I was happy. It must be correct.
7.         Curing symptoms   :- I am unhappy at work. Giving me more money and less work will make me happy.

Obviously I can not describe the entire subject in 7 lines. This is just to introduce you to something that would be of tremendous value in negotiating. It spells out clearly many points that have been made by various people over the last few months. Only the intelligent will see themself there. I can?(comment #2)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christchurch Press, Saturday, 14/4/2012 has an excellent article that would probably be of benefit to everyone involved in the P. of A. dispute. It describes errors made by virtually everyone involved in the dispute, both participants and commentators. It is positive in that it identifies faults and offers solutions. It is general in that it is discussing the human race in general, not any particular event. It uses everyday situations to illustrate faults being discussed.<br />
 This is described in detail in the Christchurch Press, 14/4/2012, page C3.<br />
A summary of some faults described is rephrased and listed below,</p>
<p>1.         Sunk cost illusion:-   Refusing to walk out of a lost cause.<br />
2.         In group bias      :-   My group is superior, than yours.<br />
3.         Attribution error  :-   Our failures are due to circumstances while other’s are due to their mistakes.<br />
4.         Affirming the consequence:- I am unhappy and have insufficient money. More money will make me happy.<br />
5.         Anchoring heuristic:-  I am working shifts. I am unhappy. Perhaps you would be unhappy anyway.<br />
6.         Charisma effect     :- I have been told that I am overworked and underpaid. It does not matter that I was happy. It must be correct.<br />
7.         Curing symptoms   :- I am unhappy at work. Giving me more money and less work will make me happy.</p>
<p>Obviously I can not describe the entire subject in 7 lines. This is just to introduce you to something that would be of tremendous value in negotiating. It spells out clearly many points that have been made by various people over the last few months. Only the intelligent will see themself there. I can?(comment #2)</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to support Ports of Auckland workers by Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/01/23/how-to-support-ports-of-auckland-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-51552</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is utterly ridiculous that when the Port Bosses are told by the courts they can&#039;t try to break the strike by firing union workers exercising their DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS, they turn around and lock the workers who want to vote to go back to work.

The Ports Bosses are using bully-boy tactics to break a union and it&#039;s members.  This is completely unacceptable.  I&#039;ve posted this on Facebook. 

Kia Kaha Workers.  Hang in there, you aren&#039;t alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is utterly ridiculous that when the Port Bosses are told by the courts they can&#8217;t try to break the strike by firing union workers exercising their DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS, they turn around and lock the workers who want to vote to go back to work.</p>
<p>The Ports Bosses are using bully-boy tactics to break a union and it&#8217;s members.  This is completely unacceptable.  I&#8217;ve posted this on Facebook. </p>
<p>Kia Kaha Workers.  Hang in there, you aren&#8217;t alone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ports of Auckland families tell their story in online video by Peter Rodda</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/02/28/ports-of-auckland-families-tell-their-story-in-online-video/comment-page-1/#comment-51314</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Rodda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh???</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayor, Church mediation offers in Ports dispute warmly welcomed by GPJA #416: Join striking Talley&#8217;s AFFCO Wiri workers at 7:30 tommorow, Thursday 15 March at Dalgety Drive, Wiri &#171; GPJA&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/03/11/mayor-church-mediation-offers-in-ports-dispute-warmly-welcomed/comment-page-1/#comment-49820</link>
		<dc:creator>GPJA #416: Join striking Talley&#8217;s AFFCO Wiri workers at 7:30 tommorow, Thursday 15 March at Dalgety Drive, Wiri &#171; GPJA&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mayor, Church mediation offers in Ports dispute warmly welcomed http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/03/11/mayor-church-mediation-offers-in-ports-dispute-warmly-welcomed/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mayor, Church mediation offers in Ports dispute warmly welcomed <a href="http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/03/11/mayor-church-mediation-offers-in-ports-dispute-warmly-welcomed/" rel="nofollow">http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/03/11/mayor-church-mediation-offers-in-ports-dispute-warmly-welcomed/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ports of Auckland families tell their story in online video by Ports of Auckland: high-stakes bid for Hearts and Minds &#124; The PR Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.munz.org.nz/2012/02/28/ports-of-auckland-families-tell-their-story-in-online-video/comment-page-1/#comment-49777</link>
		<dc:creator>Ports of Auckland: high-stakes bid for Hearts and Minds &#124; The PR Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] media, digital campaigns, videos, dedicated micro-sites and segmented messaging have all put in an appearance (although why POAL has [...]</description>
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